Archive of files

[electricfly]

Started working for a company that has repeat orders of products offered.

How do others handle this?

Looking into taking buffered files from WORK folder and storing on server till needed.

-- What is the difference between buffered file and archive file? --

Problem now is that setting get changed from original print run and colors differ.

Thank you

Craig

[SWCL]

A buffered file will stay in your list of jobs until such time as the server feels the job is too old or the server is too full, then they are deleted, more than likely oldest first (would make the most sense)

An archived file will sit in your list of jobs indeffinately & will not be deleted when the server decides it is too full.

Unless you change the media settings or available paper widths or profiles, or delete a custom filter that the rip is looking for.. & you don't re rip the image.. AFAIK nothing should change.

if it does it is a software "feature" :/

There will normally be upto 3 files in the work folder.. the original image, the buffered OR archive file & a preview file (all dependant on how your rip is set up)

Chris.

[jonkovach]

We don't backup buffered files. We back up all the original job and PDF files. When we need to reprint an old job, we just pull up the archive CD and drop the PDF back on the RIP. Whenever possible, we try to make all color corrections on the native file itself, rather than on the RIP, so future generations won't run into problems with trying to duplicate the color changes on the RIP.
Jon

[agonyofcain]

speaking of this..... if you rip a file and then change a few things on it like color and maybe the size and resubmit it is there way to export that NEW file for archival purposes. Like export out as a pdf so in the future you won't have to change the color and size again? Because a file that I had to manipulate was deleted out by a fellow employee 2 weeks later and they needed 1 more and I could not remember what I did to the color.

[Scott]

agonyofcain Wrote:speaking of this..... if you rip a file and then change a few things on it like color and maybe the size and resubmit it is there way to export that NEW file for archival purposes. Like export out as a pdf so in the future you won't have to change the color and size again? Because a file that I had to manipulate was deleted out by a fellow employee 2 weeks later and they needed 1 more and I could not remember what I did to the color.

You made these color changed inside preflight I'm assuming?

If that is the case, then the only two options that I'm aware of are the following...

Quote:1) You can open the job in preflight, then from the FILE menu choose the option "Package Job" which will then package everything it needs into an ONX file and prompt you to save it to the location of your choosing.

Quote:2) After the job has been processed and/or printed it will sit down in your buffered/archived jobs till you delete it manually or the drive runs out of space and it's auto-deleted based on the file date. These jobs can all be accessed by going to the WORK folder inside the Onyx folder, then into the specific one for your printer. (ie: D:\Onyx\Work\Roland XC-540)

Once inside of there, you will need to look for your job. You will notice 3 files associated with each job (.Buffered, .JobPreview, .PS). You may simply copy/move these files to the archive location of your choice, and will simply need to dump them back into the work folder, assuming you still have the same printer/media setup running.

Does that make sense? I can make some screenshots if needed.

[agonyofcain]

yes all done within preflight.. and yes all that makes sense. Thanks!

[jonkovach]

Wait, so you can export your modified PDF as an ONX file? So then... if you do that, are all the color corrections, replacements, magnifications, etc... saved within that file that you can later, say 2 years later, drop that ONX file in the input folder and get right back to where you were???

[Scott]

jonkovach Wrote:Wait, so you can export your modified PDF as an ONX file? So then... if you do that, are all the color corrections, replacements, magnifications, etc... saved within that file that you can later, say 2 years later, drop that ONX file in the input folder and get right back to where you were???

Yes. It will maintain all the corrections, magnifications, etc.

[jonkovach]

HOLY CRAP :o

[agonyofcain]

so its possible to somehow convert to pdf or ps after I make all these color changes etc?

[jonkovach]

No, just exporting an ONX file from Onyx, which can then later be imported back in via a hot folder... but it saves all your color changes.

[Scott]

agonyofcain Wrote:so its possible to somehow convert to pdf or ps after I make all these color changes etc?

Jon is correct.

When you make your color changes and tweaks inside of preflight and submit the job, the original file is not changed (possibly with rotation only, not 100% sure). The color changes and tweaks instructions are stored inside the 'file_name.buffered' file inside the WORK folder. These are essentially just like filters that it is told to apply on top of the original file.

As mentioned before you can just copy those 3 files from the work folder and archive them in your client folder and simply drop them back in at a later time. Keep in mind however that if you don't have all 3 files (Buffered, JobPreview/PS,TIF) it won't do you any good. That's why packaging as an ONX through the preflight FILE menu is probably a safer practice as it puts them all inside one archive so they don't get separated.

Does that make sense? If you were to pull ONLY the PS file from the work folder, you will merely have your original file minus any changes you made inside preflight.

[jonkovach]

I believe that TIFs, JPGs, etc.... are the only file types that Onyx alters the original file when rotating.